tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-71324822014954503862024-03-13T12:35:21.054-07:00tzitzernak2for a truly free, democratic, Armeniatzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.comBlogger409125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-9801766896313397602018-07-03T17:40:00.005-07:002018-07-03T17:41:52.652-07:00Back to March 1, 2008- who said what? <iframe allowfullscreen="" class="YOUTUBE-iframe-video" data-thumbnail-src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0lwfYGWW9Ng/0.jpg" frameborder="0" height="266" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0lwfYGWW9Ng?feature=player_embedded" style="clear: right; float: right;" width="320"></iframe>The issue of March 1, 2008 is coming up again... The stance of most is well remembered. But a few folks made statements that are not remembered as often as those of others. So, voila...<br />
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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT from CNN<br />
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Newscaster:<br />
"In Armenia, at least 9 people now have died in clashes between police and opposition protesters. Outgoing president Robert Kocharyan has imposed a State of Emergency following 11 days of turmoil now. His decree bans mass gatherings and restricts news media to reporting only official information. Overnight violence left Yerevan's streets littered with burned vehicles. Riot police fired guns into the air. They also fired teargas canisters to disperse thousands of protesters. The government is denying the use of excessive force, though."<br />
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<span style="color: red;">Starting at 0:36, </span><br />
<span style="color: red;">'Voice of Salpi Ghazarian </span><br />
<span style="color: red;">Asst. To the Armenian Foreign Minister'</span><br />
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<span style="color: red;"> "I'm telling you that the protesters, who, as you said, have been holding demonstrations now for 11 straight days were doing that. Today the authorities moved, uh, in because they thought that there were arms there and it turned out to be right.
There has been some violence on the streets. We're convinced that this will come to an end soon and we are hoping that with that with the help of the international community the opposition, the leader of the opposition, will come and enter a political dialogue rather than continuing this debate on the street."</span><br />
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CNN Newscaster continues:<br />
"The protesters accuse the government of rigging last month's presidential election."<br />
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See/hear the video for yourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lwfYGWW9Ng
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For now at least, I will not bother to take this apart and explain what is problematic. Hopefully, its self explanatory.tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-82413180465348580662016-03-14T04:44:00.000-07:002016-03-14T04:44:40.723-07:00Oh Happy Day!What a wonderful day!
The ARF has rejoined the ruling coalition
AND.....
be still my beating heart...
Vartan Oskanian may actually be finally finally starting his own political party...
Life couldn't be better!tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-42104731211611976802015-03-01T16:18:00.000-08:002015-03-01T16:22:17.353-08:00"To forget is to forgive..."... "մոռանալ, նշանակում է ներել" ... այո...չմոռանանքայո... չմոռանանք... @20:08
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from: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Q1O_P14g0#t=1058">RFE/RL- Azatutyun Radiokayan</a>
also: <a href="http://www.ilur.am/news/view/41850.html">Լեւոն Տեր-Պետրոսյանի ելույթը 2015 թ. մարտի 1-ի հանրահավաքում (Տեսանյութ)</a>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-31124958420918519682013-04-10T20:41:00.003-07:002013-04-10T20:44:28.529-07:00Knee strike to Martirosyan, Assault it is...<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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I have my differences with Raffi’s policies and positions,
strategies and approaches, behaviors and actions, and well, much of what he
says and does. Not just differences, but
significant concerns. But, as I’ve said
and written before, perhaps if he can pull off <i>something</i>, it’ll be a step…<o:p></o:p></div>
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But that’s not what this is about. In general, from what Ive seen and heard, my
impression is that the police have undergone significant training in staying
calm, cool and collected, since 2008/2009.
And for the mostpart, they seem to do quite well. Situations in which, 4 or so years ago, the
police would have had no clear hesitation in beating the crap out of a citizen,
now are handled more gingerly. For the
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But watch from 20-35 seconds in this video.<o:p></o:p><br />
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But this is a red beret, and this is not acting gingerly. In
fact, what this red beret is doing is called, in martial arts, a ‘<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knee_(strike)"><b>knee strike</b></a>.’ Not surprising that a red beret has had
training in martial arts. But you’d think then he’d know how to do a
non-aggressive restraint maneuver. It really seems... that he <b>chose </b>to knee Martirosyan
multiple times in the face and head. Just an impression.<o:p></o:p></div>
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That’s right. The red beret here grabs MP Armen Martirosyan
by the head and neck, brings his head down, and repeatedly thrusts his knee in
Maritrosyan’s face. He even gets one in
while Martirosyan is bouncing off of a
metal post he was thrown up against.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Before the knee strike, Martirosyan had no blood on his face
and nose. After the knee strike, he does.
The pictures show the culprit….
My guess is the guys who runs up to Martirosyan as he is being taken
away afterwards is the same guy (0:55 to 1:04) … whoever it is, that red beret,
he just goes after Martirosyan with a vengeance, trying to throw him around,
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…I wanted to make a smartass quip about the red berets
needing some training, too. But it goes
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This, my friends, is a<b> straight up assault</b>. <o:p></o:p></div>
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And that’s the least of the problems here.<o:p></o:p><br />
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<!--EndFragment-->tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-4623799435917320182013-03-01T03:34:00.001-08:002013-03-01T03:34:59.066-08:00Respectful movement and self-expressionI've got mixed feelings about this. Look at the expression on Parantsem Mayrik's face when he puts out the fire she started - burning small pictures of Serge and Robert.<br />
I understand he wants it to be a peaceful, respectful movement. I think there is great strength in that.<br />
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See it here:<a href="http://www.ianyanmag.com/2013/02/27/op-ed-in-armenian-election-aftermath-lessons-learned/"> <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;">Op-Ed: In Armenian Election Aftermath, Lessons Learned?</span></a>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-59162980520422079162013-02-26T01:44:00.000-08:002013-02-26T01:44:48.464-08:00Judgement, challenges and streets
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“<i>Do you think Raffi is
showing good judgment by challenging the election and getting people out in the
streets, or is it more self motivated towards his own ends and needs</i>”<o:p></o:p></div>
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A very close friend of mine sent me this question, knowing
that I follow things somewhat closely. I think its an excellent question, and
in fact, much more complex than it initially seems, as it makes and exposes
certain key statements and assumptions that are worthy of discussion. (please note, i just threw this together, please excuse any typos, and addendum i may fix/add later)<o:p></o:p></div>
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good judgment</i>”<o:p></o:p></div>
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a) I’m not sure whether not c<i>hallenging the election</i> was an
option. There were obviously significant
violations both before and during the elections. Despite that, Raffi’s final official
percentage surprised everyone, including him.
Would not challenging the election have been an option? Once he chose to
be a candidate, with the platform and statements he made about changes he would
make, especially regarding fraud, corruption, etc, was not challenging an
option? Aside from being completely hypocritical,
his political career in Armenia would have been dead forever.<o:p></o:p></div>
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b) What about the “good judgment” of <i>getting people out in the streets</i>? Well,
it seems that if change is going to come about, even if it were to be a
compromise with the regime, then Raffi would have to show the backing of the
people. Perhaps Sargsyan would have met
him even if there weren’t thousands in the streets behind him, and he can
challenge the decision of the CEC without people in the streets, but the
likelihood of anything happening without popular visible support would be even
less than it is now.<o:p></o:p></div>
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c) the most obvious response, of course, to this initial question, is, is
it possible to be a candidate who truly believes in democracy, experience such
massive falsifications and fraud, and not do anything? Is it possible to be a
citizen who is truly hoping to move forward toward democracy, and do nothing in
a case such as this?<o:p></o:p></div>
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d) now none of this means that he is <i>challenging the election and getting people
out in the streets</i> in the best possible way. There are steps it seems he has yet to take
that would be beneficial, and his overall plan, or what seems to be a lack of
one, is concerning. The latter point is
extremely important, and asked throughout Armenia by even his supporters. Sometimes especially his supporters.<o:p></o:p></div>
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e) the next step in this question, is in
the phrasing of “<i>using good judgment</i>.” Because that implies that there may be a
problem, perhaps a risk, in doing what he is doing. Now, I don’t know exactly what my friend had
in mind when he asked the question. But
I suppose there are two main downsides that my friend may be considering:<o:p></o:p></div>
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1—the
security of the people: this is a very common and critical concern, especially
because of the events of March 1, 2008 and the events which followed. Even if Sargsyan is not willing to use
violence, he is not the only deciding force.
Many from different circles I have spoken with think this may be why he
is not setting up a camp in Liberty Square. And it’s a good concern. There is always some degree of risk when
opposition gathers in Liberty Square, and the larger, more vocal the crowd, the
more they grow and the longer they stay, the greater the risk. One can only guess that part of the reason he
sends people home every night is because of the concern of safety. But this act of sending people home is very
disheartening to his supporters – I see it on their faces, here it spoken every
few meters as I walk through the square.
Which brings me to the point below…<o:p></o:p></div>
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2—the
morale of the people: what happens if this comes to naught? What happens if
after all of this, protests, challenges, everything, things for the mostpart
stay the same? Sure, some say that this
will move civil society forward in Armenia, and of course it will, to some
extent. But there is also a hopelessness
and inertness that comes in the general population from being lifted and
dropped. This is potentially quite dangerous.<o:p></o:p></div>
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</span></i><!--[endif]-->“<i>is it
more self motivated”<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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</span><!--[endif]-->Now, Raffi is definitely motivated, of that
there is no question; he has been motivated to become president since the
1990s. And he has worked hard to that end.
And yes, he seems to be self-motivated… but I think my friend was
getting at the next part…<o:p></o:p></div>
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</span></i><!--[endif]-->“<i>towards
his own ends and needs”<o:p></o:p></i></div>
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</span><!--[endif]-->Raffi does want to be president, and I would
argue that he wants to make his mark in history, but there is nothing wrong
with that. Many of us do in our own way.<o:p></o:p></div>
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</span><!--[endif]-->But I think perhaps my friend is asking,
especially in the context of the question, is whether there is an internal
drive in Raffi which obstructs him from seeing the risks, or issues, which can
arise from his challenge. I am not in
his mind so I can’t really answer that.
I do believe that Raffi wants to see a better, stronger, more just,
Armenia. I don’t believe that his
approach, especially to foreign policy, is the answer, and in fact I believe
his approach is potentially destructive, but that’s not the what we’re
discussing here. Actually, it is
relevant, because that same drive that guides him to demand reparations,
genocide recognition and NKR recognition as foreign policy, I believe, blinds
him to why addressing those things, now, as he does, is not in Armenia’s best
interests. And perhaps whatever drives him to take that stance in his foreign
policy, that internal drive, is also driving him now.<o:p></o:p></div>
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I think the results caught everyone including Raffi by
surprise. I think he responded and acted, but I do not know if there is a
plan. Given that many of his own
supporters have similar questions, it is not clear how long this will
continue. <o:p></o:p></div>
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To move forward, to have gone forward, and to continue to do
so, means that something is driving things, for the sake of this question,
driving Raffi, forward. Sometimes we
know something is Right, and it is that vision of Right which drives us. We see Right, but we don’t know how to get
there – because we are lost, overwhelmed, unprepared, naïve, or just don’t have
an answer. <o:p></o:p></div>
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But when we are responsible for or lead others, the
calculations must change. Any step
forward, even when driven by a vision of what is Right, must be countered by
responsibilities and risks. To not have
that counterbalance present in the plan, or not to have a plan at all, is a
sign of either blind and arguable dangerous adherence to a vision, or being
driven by other, often internal, forces. <o:p></o:p></div>
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To move forward without a plan would be reckless. And if
things do move forward, people continue to gather, protests continue in large
numbers, and a clear plan does not crystalize, visible or not to the rest of
us, then things could become quite concerning.
<o:p></o:p></div>
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But if he can move forward, with a plan, and mobilize, unite
and lead, it could be something truly incredible for the electoral process, for
democracy and human rights in Armenia…<o:p></o:p></div>
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What it would mean for the foreign policy, peace and
security of Armenia, that concerns me. <o:p></o:p></div>
<!--EndFragment-->tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-44555097388892146712013-02-25T00:55:00.001-08:002013-02-25T00:56:04.995-08:00Some data and links on February 2013 electionThe elections.am website has the official results of the presidential elections, <a href="http://www.elections.am/presidential/">in English and Armenian</a>. The results for each Constituency (Ընտ<span class="s1"><i>ր</i></span>ատա<span class="s1"><i>ր</i></span>ածք) and Precinct (Տեղամաս) are there, but then you have to go to <a href="http://res.elections.am/images/doc/precinct18.02.13.pdf">another document</a> to figure out what each of those is. So I went through and put it together, for myself - below is a list of each constituency and precinct in which Raffi officially beat Serge. If there's an error - pelase let me know so I can correct it:<br />
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Serge numbers<o:p></o:p></div>
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Serge %<o:p></o:p></div>
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1<o:p></o:p></div>
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Yerevan: Avan, part of Nor-Nork<o:p></o:p></div>
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15752/35632<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 44.21%</o:p></div>
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15383/35632<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 43.17%</o:p></div>
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4<o:p></o:p></div>
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Yerevan:Arabkir<o:p></o:p></div>
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14051/32566<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 43.15%</o:p></div>
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13827/32566<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 42.46%</o:p></div>
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6<o:p></o:p></div>
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Yerevan: Ajapnyak<o:p></o:p></div>
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14566/31895<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 45.67%</o:p></div>
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13392/31895<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 41.99%</o:p></div>
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30<o:p></o:p></div>
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Lori: Gugark, Shahumyan, part of Vanadzor<o:p></o:p></div>
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18688/32235<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 57.97%</o:p></div>
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10588/32235<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 32.85%</o:p></div>
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33<o:p></o:p></div>
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Shirak: all parts, plus part of Gyumri<o:p></o:p></div>
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14471/30171<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 47.96%</o:p></div>
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13995/30171<o:p></o:p></div>
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<td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; width: 44.8pt;" valign="top" width="45"><div class="MsoNormal">
<o:p> 46.39%</o:p></div>
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34<o:p></o:p></div>
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Shirak: rest of Gyumri<o:p></o:p></div>
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22120/34661<o:p></o:p></div>
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9693/34661<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 27.97%</o:p></div>
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35<o:p></o:p></div>
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Shirak: Azatan, Akhurik, Akhuryan<o:p></o:p></div>
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18443/29731<o:p></o:p></div>
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<o:p> 62.03%</o:p></div>
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9517/29731<o:p></o:p></div>
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Some cities in which Serge supposedly beat Raffi by about 20,000 votes or more - just visually scanned - by constituency: 16 (Ararat), 17(Ararat), 18 (Ararat), 23 (Gegharkunik), 24
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Some photos of the crowd- hard to capture as the landscape was sloping - i would say there were 2000+ people in the snowy cold:</div>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Yup, that Armen Martirosyan of Zharangutyun</td></tr>
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And what would a post or a meeting be without police? Both from Yerevan and Gyumri, double the fun! As I mentioned in my tweet, one of the police in the perimeter denied being from Yerevan, and when asked where they were, said "on the inside," gesturing towards the crowd.</div>
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The question of how many people were there came up, as usual. Here is a calculation I did in the past for a friend. Liberty Square/Azatutyan Hraparak (AH) was not full by any means, and it was probably on average a medium packed audience. Here it is:<br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i> based on that, with the three calculations for square meters/surface area above, the number of peopel who would fit in AH, loose packed are: 7448, 7450, 7520</i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i>Tightly Packed individuals: 1 person/.42 meters squared</i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i> based on that, the number of people who fit are: 16492, 16497, 16652</i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i>Very Tightly Packed individuals = 1 person/.23 square meters</i></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"><i> based on that: 30117, 30126, 30408 people fit</i></span></div>
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So, with loosely to medium, we'd be calculating somewhere between 7,500 to 16,500 - IF the whole thing were packed, which it wasn't. Maybe 60% full? So 4,500-9,900 - which I think is likely an overestimate from pictures and videos. But at least its a more consistent approach.</div>
tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-76605912528343624132013-02-19T05:13:00.002-08:002013-02-19T05:13:48.842-08:00My Question to the OSCE/PACE/ODIHRMy question is regarding the processes of these organizations.<br />
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The reports produced by these organizations during and after the 2008 Presidential Elections in Armenia were conflicted and confusing. They were considered highly questionable by numerous national and international organizations of various types, all of which focus on democracy building and human rights in Armenia.<br />
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What have these organizations done to improve their own processes and systems, in order to create reports which are more valid and credible?tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-38561561560877047872012-09-30T20:52:00.001-07:002012-09-30T20:53:09.315-07:00You and me, I thought we had something special...Bazaz, you will be sorely missed...<br />
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I'll never forget you... <br />
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(photo from Lragir.am)tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-45419917550032079972012-08-08T20:21:00.004-07:002012-08-08T20:29:09.713-07:00Just in Case Anyone has Forgotten<span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><span style="font-size: 100%;">Just in case anyone has forgotten who <i>else</i> was involved in March 1. Some might say he was even the <i>face</i> of March 1...</span></span><div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 100%; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br /></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/20BzmFTuRic" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_ER_QYRBXu0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Zkeahk5r8rI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Georgia, serif;">Just sayin' ...</span></div>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-34720030057925493172012-08-05T16:32:00.004-07:002012-08-05T16:35:18.245-07:00Wherever you are...<div><br />This one is for the taxi driver in Yerevan who tried to tell me that Dodi Gago was not involved in March 1, 2008:</div><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RSpNluqStVU/SpdYL7A_0iI/AAAAAAAAAcs/3EiUmjG8TAU/s1600/march1.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 604px; height: 435px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RSpNluqStVU/SpdYL7A_0iI/AAAAAAAAAcs/3EiUmjG8TAU/s1600/march1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><div>Here is my <a href="http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2009/08/do-these-names-sound-familiar.html">original post</a> on it, and that has more reference links.</div><div><br /></div>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-33164738210767459162012-06-25T02:48:00.006-07:002012-06-25T02:53:38.403-07:00"La Plus Belle Des Ruses Du Diable"There has been much ado about Civilitas and Oskanyan recently. I have written numerous pieces on Oskanyan, on his role in, and persistent justifications of, March 1, on his duplicity, and truly truly impressive attempts to reformulate history while promoting himself. More to come, of course.<br /><br />But in the meantime, some food for thought:<br /><br /><span><b>“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”</b></span><br /><br />That’s from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Usual_Suspects" style="font-weight: normal; ">The Usual Suspects</a>, but according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze" style="font-weight: normal; ">Wikipedia</a>, it actually comes from a very short piece by <a href="http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_Joueur_g%C3%A9n%C3%A9reux" style="font-weight: normal; ">Baudelaire, Le Joueur généreux</a>. An English translation is available <a href="http://www.piranesia.net/baudelaire/spleen/29joueur.html" style="font-weight: normal; ">here</a>.<br /><br /><span><b>« Mes chers frères, n’oubliez jamais, quand vous entendrez vanter le progrès des lumières, que la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu’il n’existe pas ! »</b></span><br /><br />Read the piece, in whatever language.tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-35470641787425843072012-06-06T20:41:00.009-07:002012-06-07T05:57:31.224-07:00Caveat EmptorI have not posted for quite a while, though I have had much to say. Some thoughts and ideas came and went, even though they were good. Some never fully matured, and some became overripe by the time i sat down to post.<br />Much has changed in the past 2 months. And I still have much to read and ponder.<br /><br />But some things, some impression, some gut feelings, do not change no matter how many times I read them and think about them. Think about them and read about them. They, nay, this one thought I have, does not seem to pass. It is neither the most important, nor the most relevant. <br />It is part of a larger picture, story, reality, and truth, that remains to be written. Despite the time, it has yet to pass from my thoughts.<br /><br />And so, here it is- about VartanOskanian.com, the biography section. And with only a small objective introduction, and one small comment. <br />There are three pictures on the biography section. The first picture was one with his family. The last picture was one of him at the UN (or similar such international meeting) with some familiar faces.<br /><br />Here is the middle picture:<br /><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-snDVhNEo-g4/T9AnQdmkSLI/AAAAAAAABCk/Hpib8CyPofk/s1600/really%253F.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 400px; height: 351px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-snDVhNEo-g4/T9AnQdmkSLI/AAAAAAAABCk/Hpib8CyPofk/s400/really%253F.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5751139887929903282" /></a><br /><br />And here is my small comment:<br /><br />Really??????? You're got some f**k*ng cojones posting that picture. <br /><br />This is no longer a short comment.<br /><br />I suppose it is eerily, fatefully appropriate, that in an attempt to endear himself to... whomever.. in the aftermath and ongoing turbulence of the March 1 he continues to deny... the only picture of himself in Armenia, with any government of Armenia, is with LTP, Vano, and Vazgen. <br /><br />Oskanyan continued to, and increased his work with Kocharyan after October 27, 1997.<br />He was Kocharyan's face on March 1, 2008.<br />He continued to work with Kocharyan after March 1, 2008. <br /><br />Where is his picture with Kocharyan? Where is any significant reference to his time spent in Kocharyan's administration.<br /><br />Read it as you will. We all do. There are so many ways to read this.<br /><br />Caveat Emptortzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-42231166781950258442012-04-16T20:28:00.002-07:002012-04-16T20:29:48.773-07:00Just watch it<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MKNZNw3y8uk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-556009422117203932012-03-31T18:41:00.006-07:002012-03-31T19:05:47.535-07:00Don't anger dear Bazaz...Poor Bazaz, defender of unknown things behind unlocked metal barricades that definitely need indefinite defending for unknown reasons... defending them, in his proud, righteous and definite manner... against those horrific, horrifying, dangerous, scandalous environmentalists... <br /><br /><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uvuw48qTKWk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><br />For some more info: <a href="http://www.epress.am/2012/03/31/%D4%B1%D5%AF%D5%BF%D5%AB%D5%BE%D5%AB%D5%BD%D5%BF%D5%B6%D5%A5%D6%80%D5%A8-%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%B8%D5%B7%D5%A5%D5%AC-%D5%A5%D5%B6-%D5%A1%D5%BA%D5%A1%D5%B4%D5%B8%D5%B6%D5%BF%D5%A1%D5%AA%D5%A5%D5%AC-%D5%88.html">Ակտիվիստները Մաշտոցի այգում մարտի 31-ին (ՏԵՍԱՆՅՈՒԹ)</a><br /><br /><br />I'm not sure who/what the account "TheOrganizeNow" is, but they posted this on YouTube. <br />And boy am I glad they did - I was going into Bazaz withdrawal.tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-68991965610349106642012-03-15T07:02:00.009-07:002012-03-15T07:52:04.501-07:00One almost feels sorry for them...(Updated)<br />I suppose the police and authorities don't really know what else to do in these types of situations... peaceful citizens gathered protecting their own city, their environment, their country, their rights... I suppose the even mildly introspective policeman gets caught in his own conundrum, and potentially realizes the irony that as a policeman he is actually being destructive and acting illegally, whereas the citizens gathered are not... and that must throw that policeman into the biggest mental loop... which I suppose just leads to cognitive dissonance and increased hostility... I suppose that policeman will do just about anything to believe that those peaceful citizens are actually a threat... One almost feels sorry for them...<div style="font-family: Georgia, serif; font-size: 100%; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br /></div><div><span><iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VGD9qtC7iv4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></span></div><div><span><br /></span></div><div><span>Did anyone see if Bazaz was there... I couldn't tell if he was. He'd be so sad if he missed it. </span></div><div><span><br /></span></div><div><span>UPDATE! Bazaz was there! Someone sent me a pic of him there, be still my beating heart...!</span></div><div><span><br /></span></div><div><span><br /></span></div><br /><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XSz-MiQGESM/T2IBmbo-p9I/AAAAAAAABCY/tTZoWA3STTQ/s1600/download.jpeg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 339px; height: 225px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XSz-MiQGESM/T2IBmbo-p9I/AAAAAAAABCY/tTZoWA3STTQ/s400/download.jpeg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5720136236480243666" /></a><br /><span><span style="font-size: 100%;"></span></span>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-45917979187868935292012-03-01T05:28:00.003-08:002012-03-01T05:32:25.182-08:00Չորս տարի առաջ...<div id=":82" class="ii gt adP adO" style="font-size: 13px; margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 15px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-bottom: 5px; position: relative; z-index: 2; 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line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տարի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">առաջ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">այս</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">օրը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ուժով</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արյամբ, սահմանադրական բոլոր նորմերի խախտմամբ և Զինված ուժերի օգտագործմամբ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ճնշվեց</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նախագահական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ընտրությունների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արդյունքների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կեղծման</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">դեմ քաղաքացիական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ընդվզումը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Չորս</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տարի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">անց</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">այդ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արյունալի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրադարձության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հետևանքները</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չեն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վերացվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 19px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 22px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Եվ ոչ չորս տարի անց, ոչ էլ երբեւէ հնարավոր չի լինի վերականգնել այն տասը երիտասարդ կյանքերը, որ ընսհատվեցին Երեւանի կենտրոնում, ինչպես մարտադաշտում:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">«</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Բանակն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրականում</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">» </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նախաձեռնությունը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արձանագրում</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">է</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">. </span></p><p style="line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">1.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Մարտիմեկյան</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրադարձություններից</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մինչ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">օրս</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չեն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բացահայտվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տասը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">սպանությունները</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">դրանց</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">համար</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պատասխանատու</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">անձինք</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ոչ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ոք</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քրեական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> կամ այլ </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պատասխանատվություն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կրել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">այդ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">սպանությունների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">համար</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: Չեն բացահայտվել և պ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ատասխանատվության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չեն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կանչվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ցուցարարների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վրա</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կրակելու</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հրաման</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տված</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բարձրաստիճան</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պաշտոնյաները</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: Պետությունը ոչ միայն </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Խախտել է</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քաղաքացիների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կյանքի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրավունքը, այլև</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քայլեր</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ձեռնարկել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">զոհվածների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ընտանիքներին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հասարակությանը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բավարար</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պատասխան</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տալու</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">համար</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կատարվածի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մասին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վերացնելու</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">անպատժելիության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վերաբերմունքը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ոստիկանական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">զինված</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ուժերի կողմից</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">:</span></p><p style="line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">2.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Առ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">այսօր</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրավական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">գնահատական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">տրվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> 2008</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">թ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մարտի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> 1-</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ին, Երևան քաղաքում քսանօրյա արտակարգ դրություն սահմանելու մասին Ռոբերտ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Քոչարյանի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արձակած</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հրամանագրին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">որն</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ընդունվեց</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արտակարգ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">դրության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մասին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">օրենքի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բացակայության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պայմաններում</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: Որևէ ք</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ննության չեն արժանացել </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արտակարգ դրության պայմաններում քաղաքացիների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> իրավունքների խախտման փաստերը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> և որևէ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրավական գնահատական չի տրվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">այդ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրավունքների սահմանափակումներին: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span></p><p style="line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">3.<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; "> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Որևէ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քննության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արժանացել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> 2008</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">թ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">փետրվարի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> 23-</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ՀՀ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պաշտպանության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նախարարի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">արձակած</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">թիվ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> 0038</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հրամանի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">օրինականությունը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">և</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> իրավական գնահատական չի տրվել </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">խաղաղ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ցուցարարների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նկատմամբ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Զինված</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ուժերի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">օգտագործման</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">փաստին:</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Հասարակությունը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մինչ այժմ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ստացել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վերոնշյալ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հարցերի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">պատասխանը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">որի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հետևանքով</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">ձևավորված</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">անպատժելիության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մթնոլորտը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մնում</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">է</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չհաղթահարված</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Իրավական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">գնահատականների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բացակայությունը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">չի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կարող</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">փոխարինվել</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իշխանությունների</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կողմից</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քաղաքական</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">կամքի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մասին</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">բազմաթիվ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հավաստիացումներով</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քանի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">որ</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">անպատժելիության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">մթնոլորտը</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հղի</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">է</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">հասարակության</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">համար</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նորանոր</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">վտանգներով</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">: Ավելին հենց այսօր Ազգային Ժողովում քվեարկության է դրված «Արտակարգ դրության իրավական ռեժիմի մասին» ՀՀ օրենքի նախագիծը, որով փորձ է արվում օրինականացնել արտակարգ դրության ժամանակ Զինված ուժերի անվերահսկելի կիրառումը`չունենալով 2008 թ. մարտի 1ի դեպքերի իրավական գնահատականները: </span><br /><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.25in; line-height: 14px; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "><br /><i>«</i></span><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">Բանակն</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">իրականում</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">» </span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">քաղաքացիական</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "> </span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; ">նախաձեռնություն</span></i><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "></span></i></p><div><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; line-height: 17px; font-family: Sylfaen, serif; "><br /></span></i></div><div class="yj6qo"></div></div></div><div id=":7s" class="hq gt" style="font-size: 13px; margin-top: 15px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 15px; margin-left: 0px; clear: both; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.917969); "></div>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-18605526079979454162012-02-25T06:15:00.009-08:002012-02-25T06:36:13.373-08:00Self-declared Inculpability and a Clear Conscience - and its off to the BHK!None of the recent Oskanyan news is new, nor is it surprising. Its been commented on many times, recently and in the past, by my self and many others.<br /><br />But I still can’t seem to resist the urge to comment on it. Its not as though he is the only person who played such a culpable role in the events of March 1, who is still out and about; or who ignores or denies their own or the government’s role/responsibility in what happened; or who is currently looking to gain a role or further their own role and power in politics; nor is he the only one playing the game of politics, or claiming to have the best for Armenia in mind.<br /><br />So what is it?<br /><br />Perhaps it is the vehemence with which he denies the culpable role he played during March 1, despite so much straightforward, undeniable evidence to the contrary; perhaps it is the ease with which he can speak of his clear conscience and faultlessness; perhaps it is his use of a supposedly independent organization whose mission is to “strengthen civil society” and “promote discourse” – quite commendable goals - to try to erase his past from history and people’s memories and promote himself and his intentions further; …<br /><br /> I’ve commented numerous times in the past on Civilitas and Oskanyan. For the record, I actually think that CivilNet has done some important work, and Civilitas is ‘addressing’ some very important topics, I am just extremely weary of this group in just about every way, to put it mildly.<br /><br />This is a partial repetition of prior posts, but I can’t seem to help it – despite his self-declared inculpability, clear conscience and mighty goals, there’s a black hole in Oksanyan’s statements when it comes to actual civil society… here we go… (and this is just a start)...<br /><br />--where are his comments on political prisoners, Northern Avenue evictions, police violence, army deaths, impending ecological nightmares, election corruption…<br /><br />-- where are there any comments truly critical of Kocharyan? Is there nothing worthy of criticism in Kocharyan’s time of rule?...<br /><br />-- I don’t even know where to start with March 1, his role, his denials, …<br /><br />--Or where to start with applying to join BHK – Dodi Gago’s party. Hey, we all want a better Armenia. But what on earth makes you think that you should do it through joining BHK? One can work with a party, but joining it means you agree with the principles and actions of that party – really, Oskanyan? These are, of course, rhetorical questions. The only reason I can see for Oskanyan to join BHK is to increase his own power and potential to become politically active, and to possibly to consolidate Kocharyan’s resources… Putting it carefully:<br /><br />--It is thought by some that BHK was founded by Kocharyan…<br />--It is also thought by some that Oskanyan is still in close contact, not just for social and personal reasons, with Kocharyan...<br />--It is also thought by some that Kocharyan is lurking in the political background…<br />--It is also thought by some that there is an increasing rift between HHK and BHK…<br />--Some have noted that it is interesting that CivilNet covers what it does, appears well funded, has gained an audience, has a nice show face, and is potentially ready to be used for numerous imaginable purposes…<br /><br />Of course, there are varying levels of reliability in the varying amounts of data for the above. But one might see how I might write what I did above:<br /> …and to possibly to consolidate Kocharyan’s resources…<br /><br />Phew, that was a mouthful. I’ll leave it there for now.<br /><br />Here are some links to my old posts on this topic, and many have their own links...<br /><br /><a href="http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-feel-bad-for-ostriches-civilitas.html">http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2010/02/i-feel-bad-for-ostriches-civilitas.html</a><br /><br /><a href="http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2011/06/trying-to-reformulate-history.html">http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2011/06/trying-to-reformulate-history.html</a><br /><br /><a href="http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2009/03/in-search-of-civil-society-but-not-one.html">http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2009/03/in-search-of-civil-society-but-not-one.html</a> - My thoughts on one of the original Civilitas publications - the Report on 2008<br /><br /><a href="http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2010/05/on-civilitas-oskanyan-and-meghri.html">http://tzitzernak2.blogspot.com/2010/05/on-civilitas-oskanyan-and-meghri.html</a>tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-27436939053588491552012-02-12T18:45:00.000-08:002012-02-12T18:51:20.322-08:00Waiting...In the midst of further fraud and falsification in the National Assembly, workings to make states of emergency like March 1 'legal' about one year ahead of the next presidential elections, the recent resurgence of Kocharyan, and so on and so forth...<br />...<br />I'm awaiting the results of the Hrazdan election...tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-57376408690456223152012-02-07T20:41:00.000-08:002012-02-07T20:49:17.979-08:00And so it begins...<a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fY8Im9xIzmc/TzH9KdFELWI/AAAAAAAABCM/hHVoMYUo-_k/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2012-01-28%2Bat%2B3.13.01%2BPM.png"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 361px; height: 381px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fY8Im9xIzmc/TzH9KdFELWI/AAAAAAAABCM/hHVoMYUo-_k/s400/Screen%2BShot%2B2012-01-28%2Bat%2B3.13.01%2BPM.png" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5706620558901521762" /></a><br /><br />More talk about and from Oskanyan re-entering politics... 'nuff said.<br />Hayk Gevorgyan imprisoned on trumped up charges... <br />Kocharyan in the press...<br />Upcoming Parliamentary elections...<br />Presidential elections in sight...<br /><br />And so it begins...tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132482201495450386.post-74736751842825214562012-01-20T20:03:00.000-08:002012-01-21T07:03:10.503-08:00Armenia without ArmeniansI am continually impressed by the environmentalist actions and struggle which I catch glimpses of in the news. But, who am I to be impressed? Rather, it gives me joy and hope to see a group of individuals so dedicated to such an important cause. While a friend of mine finds these videos depressing, because she feels there is no recourse or hope to be had, because changes must occur on a higher lever, and while I agree to some extent, I find that the manner in which these youth conduct themselves is inspiring, to say the least. I could go on, but I think its unnecessary.<br /><br />What I do find important to say is that the struggle for Teghut, or Qajaran, or any of the numerous beautiful regions of Armenia being threatened by mining is not just an environmental one, which is in and of itself exceedingly important (the impending environmental disasters are enormous, as well as there sequelae), but one for all of Armenia, as a nation. I can't put it any better than Mariam Sukhudyan herself - watch the whole video, but especially 10:03-10:11<br /><br /><iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/hAdq9q5Pghs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">"<span >...Ոնց որ հայաթափության ծրագիր ա իրականացվում։ Ամեն ինչ արվում ա որ Հայաստանը առանց հայերի՝ այդ նախագիծն իրականացվի...</span>"</span><br /><br />Roughly Translated: As though a plan to empty Armenia of Armenians [Hayataputyun] is being realized. Everything is being done so that an Armenia without Armenians, that plan, is realized...<br /><br />Addendum: There is much more to be said on this issue of հայաթափության (Hayataputyun) - more to come soon.tzitzernak2http://www.blogger.com/profile/05353940374231841453noreply@blogger.com7