Monday, April 27, 2009

If beating them up doesn't work, just "remove" them...


Pictures are from a1plus






According to both an HAK statement and an a1plus article, youths who were distributing flyers about the upcoming May 1 Opposition demonstration were attacked by individuals dressed in civilian clothing, who physically assaulted the youths, and destroyed their flyers. They also kidnapped one of the youths. The cars that were driven by those doing the assaulting, as well as some of the violent individuals themselves, are said to have been caught on camera. Not only that, but some of these violent folks are preliminarily thought to be members of the civil department of the criminal division. The cops, nearby, didn't do a thing, even when asked to help.
The A1plus article adds that the kidnapped youth was Armen Gevorgyan - after getting beaten up in the car, he somehow got away, and ended up near the Haykakan Zhamanak office.
I'm hoping someone will post any videos up on YouTube, and that there'll be more photos tomorrow.

20 comments:

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

"he somehow got away, and ended up near the Haykakan Zhamanak office."

Khentanontz or a Hollywood movie? Alfred Hitchcock?

BSW said...

Bekaisa has a post (In Russian) about her terrible experience in the court. The witness who actually has not seen anything was giving "evidence" against some of 7...
She posted the so called witness's pic saying that nation should recognise such cowards by face...
That's right! But the prob is they all look alike to me...

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Some of them look alike, some of them don't. Bekaisa, or whatever her name is, is connected to "Skesela," a very cultish kind of political movement. I sure hope she isn't fucking an English guy.

Erm, thank you for helping us, Armenians, to learn how to read newspapers.

P.S. Your picture on your website looks ugly, and all of your friends are stupid wannabees, especially the dipshits with the Che Guevera hats.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

My khosk is directed to Dekaisa, or whatever the name is, again, not BSW, of course.

bsw-am said...

My Goodness!
What on erath happened to u,AF?

I am so, so ,so gobsmacked that I don't know what to say... Judging from ur and her posts I actually thought u were on the same side,shared the same ideas, feelings and want to make a difference in Armenia...
I don't know much abt movements, I react as I read online news, but what is wrong with Sksela? I thought they r activists who want to make so mucn needed in Armenia changes...
I don't want to discuss her or anyone else but I do find her a very pretty lady and edinomishlennitsa, her friends' list is too long, don't know the guy u mentioned but I enjoy reading Zabugorski...
In fact I would ask Tzitzernak to remove our posts about her here after u (AF) read my response...

I was thinking when I am in Yerevan to meet some ppl ( don't even know who!), many of us feel very strong abt Armenia's domestic issues, is there anything wrong playing in team rather than being scattered all over the place? How can I know which movements r "good" and "bad" ones?

PLs, refrain from rude comments towards her...

BSW

BSW said...

I have just created a LJ account , is it visible to others,...pls?

AF,
Do six por shoki megh em, hegh chei spasum...

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

There I've gone too far...again. No surprise. Anyway, what's wrong with Sksela is that it is a content-free political movement. It's like decaffeinated coffee, like chocolate laxatives, like ice-cream with no calories. I mean, what's the point?

Nowhere in anything they've written that I've found is there any hint of a political ideology. So, what's the point? They started that campaign to get the youth to read newspapers. OK, fine. But--which--newspapers? The mere act of reading is supposed to mean something? It doesn't make a difference if you're a nazi, or a communist, or liberal democrat, or an anarchist? Well, of course it does, and that's the point.

But Sksela, apparently, doesn't have an ideology. It seems to be all (revolutionary) form with no (political) content. Like desire without an object. And that's just strange, mainly because it is impossible. Either they really don't subscribe to a belief, in which case they're stupid, or they do and are hiding it, in which case they are sinister.

And that's what's wrong with Sksela.

Anonymous said...

sksela is a state dept shell company. has lots of ideology, just not in the interests of Armenia.

collect the youth, promise them visas, and trips west, shovel ample amounts of bs about democracy etc while undermining self-governance and state building and leave the place a wreck. a perfect agent to maneuver pawns like LTP around the chessboard, sacrificing them when necessary.

exhibit a = georgia.

Anonymous said...

Oh lord....next thing you here its a jewish conspiracy....oh lord indeed.

bsw-am said...

AF,
Es Skselan chi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNxmKEEhb4&feature=channel_page

ev sa el im videonern en on back up account, karogh a eli iranq en?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1x5godwe8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANunVKDwd5c&feature=channel_page

Ete et Skselan a, vat chi;-) Don't u think?

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

bsw-am,

The first video is not Sksela, I'm 99.99% sure; it's very likely people from Hima, an organization I very definitely support:
(http://qbhima.blogspot.com/)

The second and third videos are, not Sksela, either, but...erm, you! Nice job!

Anonymous 9:29,
I haven't seen any hard evidence of them being a "color revolution" type organization, but it is certainly a possibility, and I wouldn't be surprised.

More importantly, if Sksela's leaders are western-planted fake revolutionaries, and if they do, however mildly, support LTP, there is no evidence that that support goes the other way around. There is, however, a Lot of evidence that shows that LTP is Not a tool of the US. Note, for example, Pashinyan's criticism of Sakashvili's war.

bsw-am said...

Not Sksela, neither? OK...

No, I only created those videos based on posts from Onnik Krikorian when accidentally came across his blog...he also posted some links to other blogs abt the same which I used.
I lived in Moscow by the time and didn't know that in Armenia there were people who tried to draw attention to our safety in Russia.
One of Diasporan girl's gave a very good advice: to stage simultanious protest by Diaspora in all countries in front of Russian Embassies against killings of Armenians/Non Slavs in Russia but the problem is my both videos were attacked exactly by Diasporans who claimed we r spies who want to destroy "brotherly" Armenian-Russian relations and YT removed them. This is my "hidden" account lol

tzitzernak2 said...

Unfortunately, I just saw this thread of comments and thoughts. Fortunately, its taken a turn for the slightly better than it was.

There have been many accusations of alternative funding and motivations, thrown at all sides. For now, it is hard to prove or disprove most if not all of the accusations.

I would, however, ask all parties to refrain from insults, especially personal ones. Generally they are more destructive than truly constructive. The latter of which is welcome and encouraged.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

bsw-am,

Sksela has revamped its website, I see. It is far hipper than it was before. In fact, the thing about Sksela is that they are so in-tune with youth culture, that you'd think that they are a part of a very professional organization of very wealthy--excuse me Tzitzernak--mind-fuckers that are after the minds of Armenia's youth.

Now, you might think that just because I'm noticing that fact, that my noticing of that fact would stop them. Of course, it won't. What I'm saying is that, increasingly, even more now, I'm very definitely getting the feeling that they are up to doing the good of oligarchs. The only difference is that they are doing the bidding of Western oligarchs instead of Putin's oligarchs.

Ergo--excuse me, again, Tzitzernak--fuck 'em. Fuck Sksela. What I'm looking for is no longer that they ARE evil, but they are NOT evil.

As a matter of fact, I would advise anyone who is paying attention to ATTACK these parasites.

That's what I think. Do I have to apologize?

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

To be clear:

If I were 18, I would way, way go for Hima than I would go for Sksela.

Hima is the real thing, Sksela is a rotten apple.

Hima is like that quiet voice that you start feeling at the bottom of your stomach.

Hima is light that spreads from the center.

Hima is hope.

(I know, I sound like a Hindu, but that is what I think.) Hara kiri swami vengadesh. LOL.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Wait. I'm caught in a never ending circle of having to comment on what I commented on before.

That's a very Hindu kind of a thing to be caught in, I think. Except I'm not Hindu. Nevertheless, I'm caught in the circle of having to comment on the comment that I made before last, because it wasn't clear enough.

Hey!

Are you listening?

Watch me stop commenting on the comments right here you, devil!

Movses said...

Be calm, my child, liberal humanist democracy will save you.

(Aside) As if.

doctor don said...

armenaker I think you are eating yourself alive.

hima(r) and verjacrela are phony stooge orgs on the western state-dept payroll.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Yeah, and you know what? I taste good. Just wish I had some soy sauce.

You're doing the same thing, too, but just don't know it: Endlessly commenting on what came before.

Ani said...

You know, Armen, just once I wish you'd say what was on your mind, and not be so shy... ;)