Sunday, April 26, 2009

The ARF may truly leave the coalition, really, truly...

UPDATE: The ARF has left the coalition (hetq, lragir, and others have relevant articles).

Both Lragir and Azatytyun Radio have reported over the past day or so that the ARF did not take part in the Security Council Meeting, since they are considering leaving the coalition. Apparently we'll hear more on the (final?) decision in the next 24 hours.

I must say, despite what it may seem, I think leaving the coalition would be a bold step, and not an easy one, and one I would not completely scoff at. It would take at least some degree of strength.

But let's be real here. This situation, where they are almost forced to leave, is of their own making. Leave, or stay part of a coalition that has accepted discussion with Turkey without precondition. Stay, and be completely ridiculed, having lost in the only fronts that have mattered to the ARF for the past 40 or so years. Leave, and be what, part of the opposition?

But they could stay and do what they have done for so long - explain away, justify. Here is the argument which I have heard so often, and would not be surprised to hear if they can't pull themselves away: We have decided to stay in the coalition to try to guide it, pressure it, mold it to the best that we can, in the direction which we know is the right one for the Armenian people. The coalition, SS, have made decisions we do not agree with, but as long as we have a chance to work from within to make a difference, we will.

Of course, the teeny modicum of respect they may gain in my eyes if they do leave the coalition (now working our way up to zero from the negative), is nothing compared to the almost bottomless pit of damage they have caused to the Armenian nation over the past 20 years, including but not restricted to their lack of support for an independent Armenia when the time came, lack of tangible support during the war, and last but not least their initial decision to join the coalition in the Spring of 2008.

We'll know soon enough, unless they keep dragging it on and on.

13 comments:

Ani said...

They could ask Colin Powell how that strategy worked out for him.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

They've been dogmatic for a very long time. After Armenia's "Independence" the Central Committee had access to a whole new pool of members. Now this new branch apparently doesn't like the old branch. For example, the decision of the Lebanese ARF to support the "radical Arab terrorists" over the ostensibly rational French-loving Maronites. That's something that the Kentronakan Komite didn't like very much.

I don't really know what's going on with them, and with which part of them, seeing that they are not unified, or don't appear to be so, but I will say that their deciding to join the coalition was surprising to me in the first place, and them, now, deciding to leave the coalition is equally surprising, which leads me to the conclusion that they don't know what they are doing. Maybe "Hayaser" would know.

I think they've been so rigid in their ideology for so long that they'd be much better off as monuments.

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

Ani, I'm guessing that you mean this part, right? "We have decided to stay in the coalition to try to guide it, pressure it, mold it to the best that we can, in the direction which we know is the right one for the Armenian people. The coalition, SS, have made decisions we do not agree with, but as long as we have a chance to work from within to make a difference, we will."

It didn't work out too well for Powell, but I don't think that that is what they, the ARF, were doing in the first place.

BSW said...

Panarmenian has a post saying ARF is discussing joining oppposition...
Dashnaks keep on calling anyone who supports opposition "levonakan"...
well, welcome to the club, newbie "levonakans", or maybe they prefer being called "Armenian Hezbollah"? LOL

tzitzernak2 said...

AF- I agree that that's not what the ARF was actually doing, though I do think it is a line that they have used, and would not be surprised it they used it again, if they stay.
Thoughts?

Ani said...

Armen, yeah that's what I meant, but I agree that's not what they were doing. They were just looking for the butter side of the bread. Turns out the butter was gasoline and tastes really bad. Go away, Nazis, who wants you?

Ani said...

Sentence edit: Turns out the butter was gasoline, tastes really bad, and now the "butterers" are waving cigarette lighters around. It all threatens to blow up in the ARF's face.

BSW said...

Ani,

"It all threatens to blow up in the ARF's face."

There r some who believe otherwise...


"The ARF-Dashnaktsutyun will become a moderate opposition. Most likely, HAK adherents will join the ARF," added Mr. Karaptyan.

Even in the worst nightmare I can't imagine anyone from those who was severly condemned by ARF, betrayed to join it...Who will ever forget how feroicesly Dashnaks supported 1 March massacre blaming exactly "HAK adherents???

Anonymous said...

what a dumb comment. nobody has "supported" the march 1 massacre.

Anonymous said...

I don't really care what ARF does. They are a very minor party to have so much space devoted to them.

BSW said...

They did...
U didn't expect them to officially announce their full support of a massacre, did u? But what they did was exactly supporting March 1 slaughter...

But unoffcially all YT was covered with Dashnaks' violent, disgusting comments abt not only opposition but also victims...I myself had to remove comments from Dashnaks (on my two tribute-videos to the 1 March victims) such as : "these filthy dogs,thugs,looters deserved to die because they are levonakans"...
so much space is devoted to them not because of their merits but quite opposite: with complete lack of moral values they manage to be the loudest ones...
During the year YT (YouTube) Dashnaks managed to silence very many Armenians who dared to raise their even slightest support to opposition which very soon resulted all Armenian part of YT to be run by Dashnaks. Not any more...

In a way YT can be an example how after a year of being harassed, sent rape and death threats (even to our kids/babies)literally all 24/7 by a big group very well organised Dashnaks we managed not only survive/not to close accounts like many did but also shut their dirty mouths ...
P.S. Their leader turned out to be a Diasporan priest, now we can imagine the damage he is doing to our nation with his "preaches" ...the most moderate one was :" Jesus told we can only forgive our enemies if they ask for forgivness, it means we cannot as Christians forgive Turks until they ask for forgivness"...This is his understanding of Christianity...

And what ur doing with ur "clever' comment is indeed trying to distract attention from a vilent sect called ARF...

Armen Filadelfiatsi said...

"Armenian Hezbollah" ha ha ha HAAAAAAAAA!

I love it. That's awesome.

BSW said...

AF;-)

I have more options for them based on their own claims...

"Tashnak MP Hagop Pakradounian argues that his Christian constituency has plenty in common with the radical Shia movement, with its powerful armed militant wing, known as the Islamic Resistance. "

"Armenian Hezbollah", "Shia Armenians", "Shia Dashnaks"...
it's all up to them lol